Conversation with My Hero

by Rachel Hauck, @RachelHauck 

I was working on the hero of Princess Ever After a few years ago and found I couldn’t get anything real out of him.

He was a two-dimensional.  Flat. Boring. I went through the SEQ exercises – dark wound, lie, fear, secret desire, true destiny…

But I still didn’t know what he wanted. I knew who he was when the story started, but I had no idea he was really about, or where he was going.

So I asked him a few questions in a free flow dialog. I just let happen. It’s imperfect but it really opened up the hero, Tanner, to me. And, it was fun.

I thought it’d be fun to pull this old exercise out and share with you all.

Set up: Tanner is a professor and friend of King Nathaniel, my hero in book one of the royal series, Once Upon A Prince.

Tanner lives in a “sister” country, The Duchy of Hessenberg, that is about to be free from a lease agreement with Brighton going back to WW1.

They need a true-blood royal to usher in this change of authority. But Hessenberg’s royalty has vanished. Except for one. My heroine Regina who has NO idea she’s about to get a new identity.

King Nathaniel taps Tanner to travel to Florida and deliver the news.

But before his journey, I needed to know more about him.


RH: What bothers you the most when the story opens?

Tanner: That everything will change. That Regina will ruin my country. She’ll fail.

RH: Why does failure bother you?

Tanner: Who wants to fail? Do you? I don’t want my country to fail or fall into turmoil.

RH: Did you fail at something?

Tanner: Excuse me?

RH: Did YOU fail at something?

Tanner: Yes, everything. Let my parents down.

RH: When?

Tanner: When what?

RH: When did you let your parents down?

Tanner: Really, that’s where you’re going?

RH: Yes.

Tanner: In prep school.  There, you happy? Some blokes and I got into some mischief and I was “removed.” But then I was sent to Brighton and …

RH: That’s a long way away from Hessenberg.

Tanner: Only a 100 kilometers by boat.

RH: Did you see your parents much?

Tanner: Certainly. Yes. Some. More than some of the other boys, I’ll tell you that…

RH: When did you see them?

Tanner: Holidays. They sent for me. I went home for Festive and Christmas. We always holidayed together in the spring and summer.

RH: Birthdays?

Tanner: They sent money. Gifts.

RH: So you liked boarding school?

Tanner: I never said I liked it. I said it was all right. Sports were fun.

RH: What would you have preferred?

Tanner: To not enter this conversation with you. Just what is it you want?

RH: To know what you want?

Tanner: You want to know what I want? Peace. World peace.

RH: Har, don’t be a wise guy. You want peace for yourself.

Tanner: Doesn’t everyone? You’re not a very smart writer are you?

RH: Actually, I’m quite brilliant. So, you want peace. Inner peace.

Tanner: Of course, I’m not an ogre.

RH: Why don’t you have it? What troubles you?

Tanner: You’re a nosey one, are you not?

RH: You’re an evasive one, are you not?

Tanner: Touché.

RH: So?

Tanner: So?

RH: What is bothering you? You have 2 PhDs. A standing in politics and in the community. A favorite professor. A leader. What’s missing?

Tanner: You Americans… always want to dig into a chaps heart and dig up all the personal stuff. Well, I won’t fall for it. Speaking out what I want won’t make it true and I’ll be sure to regret it later.

RH: Love? Acceptance? Is that what you want? You mentioned failure. Are you afraid to fail.

Tanner: Yes, you bloody know-it-all. Who wants to fail?

RH: Some don’t mind. At least they tried.

Tanner: Well, they can have their try, and the mess it created.

RH: You don’t like messes?

Tanner: Bloody hell, can we talk about what I do like?

RH: Sure. Go for it.

Tanner: I love a crisp Hessenberg morning. I love when the snow falls in the mountains and my feet tingle in anticipation of strapping on my skis.

I love the sound of my heels clicking on the polished marble of the university halls. Debating the merits of supply side economics with my students or the merits of a constitutional monarchy. Or the new reforms in the House of Lords.

I love sculling on Reims River when the sun is cresting over the mountain. Dipping my oar into the glassy surface of the still waters and surging forward. I love the sound of wild birds nesting.

I love racing my car over the back roads, engine at full throttle. I love a good rugby game.

I love a good wine, grilled meat with Béarnaise sauce. I love the sound of rain on my balcony. The rooting of a football crowd. Dancing.

The sound of the church choir raising their voices to God in Burkhard Cathedral.

Women with long dark hair. The soft lilt of a female laugh. Making eye contact when she thinks I’m not looking.

A roaring fire. A good night at the pub with my mates, discussing everything from cars to women to the meaning of life.

RH: Any family memories?

Tanner: Yes. The stiff handshake of my father when he dropped me off at school. The quick kiss of my mother. Saturday evening calls to see how I fared. Mother did love Christmas. She made a point to do it up well. My brothers and I tried our best to get her the best gift we could every year.

RH: What were some of those gifts?

Tanner: Funny, now that I think about it. It was always perfume. The same one. Channel no 5 cause she told us she liked it once.

RH: Did she wear it?

Tanner: I believe so.

RH: What about your father?

Tanner: Books. Always books. The man put a high price on education. And staying educated. When he entered the House of Lords, he was the most knowledgeable one.

RH: Did you feel pressure to be like him?

Tanner: I see what you’re doing.

RH: Pretend you don’t. Humor me.

Tanner: Of course, I felt pressure. As did my brothers. We didn’t want to let the old man down. He was one of those chaps you felt like you’d spend your whole life trying for his approval. Just one none, one “well done” one “attaboy.”

RH: Did he ever say those words to you?

Tanner: Still waiting. Though, I think he’s proud. Mum tells me he is. Talks all the time about his boy with 2 Ph. Ds.

RH: Speaking of… two? Really? Kind of overachieving, no?

Tanner: I’m a diverse fellow, what can I tell you. I loved politics and economics. Figured the two go together anyway. I had a mentor who had degrees in both.

RH: Who is this mentor?

Tanner: Lord Edmund. He was in some ways like a father to me.

RH: But not your father.

Tanner: Does it matter?

RH: Did you please him?

Tanner: I think so? He said as much when I graduated.

RH: You know, God is not like them? Not like any man you’ve ever known.

Tanner: I know. I understand the word holy.

RH: Do you?

Tanner: Totally other than. Set apart. Not like anything you’ve ever encountered before. Do you really want to take me on?

RH: No, just trying to meet you. At the end of this story, Tanner, what will you have learned. What do you hope happens to you? What is your epiphany?

Tanner: I hope that I learn I don’t need man’s approval. That God’s is enough. I hope I know in my heart that HE does approve of me. I hope above all men that I please God. I wish to hear “good on you” from my father but if I don’t, I want my heart to be whole.

RH: What will cause you not to hear it?

Tanner: If I help Regina. Father is a Brighton man, through and through. He will not want a restarted Hessenberg. He doesn’t believe our economy can afford it.

RH: But you’ll do what’s right, won’t you.

Tanner: Don’t I always.

RH: Does that make you mad?

Tanner: Mad. No. Girl YOU are mad. It does make me feel all too safe. I always do what’s safe. I stick to the rules. Even the self imposed rules. Some days I just want to…

RH: Let go? Let God?

Tanner: If we’re quoting clichés yes. I just want to not be in control. To not have it all buttoned up.

RH: You want to fall in love with Regina?

Tanner: I don’t know, you’re the brainchild author. Do I?

RH: I think you do.

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Tanner: Why?

RH: Hey, I’m the one asking the questions here.

Tanner: Why do you want me to love her? What about this Felicity lass? She seems more my type.

RH: Exactly. Too buttoned up, as you say. Regina is messy. Outside your boundaries. She scales your walls and messes with your heart and head. You can’t contain her.

Tanner: Sounds like a challenge.

RH: And you like a challenge?

Tanner: Within reason. Sure. Is she smart?

RH: No, she’s dumb. Of course she’s smart goofball.

Tanner: Will she love me?

RH: Ah, is that important to you?

Tanner: Yes. I’ve never been in love. Not that I know of and I’d kind of like the first girl I whisper love to would return the sentiment.

RH: Wow, aren’t you romantic? Good grief, Tanner. You won’t even put your heart out there for love?

Tanner: Do you want me to get all gob smacked and mushy?

RH: No, but I want you to loosen up. What about doing something completely selfless?

Tanner: I can do selfless.

RH: Then let’s see it. Give up everything for Regina?

Tanner: Is that what I do at the end I can’t do in the beginning? Be selfless? Give up everything — my reputation, my desire to hear good job from my father, my loyalty to Brighton, for her.

RH: Yes for her! For love. For the “kingdom.”


So you see where I was going with this exercise. If you’re stuck, start letting your protagonists talk through your fingers. No holds barred. Let it rip.

Go write something brilliant.


The Love Letter

From the New York Times bestselling author of The Wedding Dress comes a story of long-lost love and its redemption in future generations.

Set in stunning upcountry South Carolina, The Love Letter is a beautifully crafted story of the courage it takes to face down fear and chase after love, even in the darkest of times. And just maybe, all these generations later, love can come home in a way not even Hollywood could imagine.

New York Times, USA Today and Wall Street Journal best-selling, award-winning author Rachel Hauck loves a great story. She serves on the Executive Board for American Christian Fiction Writers. She is a past ACFW mentor of the year. A worship leader and Buckeye football fan, Rachel lives in Florida with her husband and ornery cat, Hepzibah. Read more about Rachel at www.rachelhauck.com.

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