The Great Debate! Story vs Structure

So, here we are, Susie May and me, after the Christy Awards sitting in the Marriott Hotel with greats Ted Dekker and Steven James, fellow Christy Award nominees.

(Congratulations to Susie for her second Christy win! And also congrats to Ted!)

Among our company that night was Ted’s daughter, who is also a new, contracted author with Tyndale.

As talk goes among writers, we edged our way to talking about craft. Steven James just came out with a book Story Trumps Structure.

I get what he’s saying. Books are about stories, about people doing amazing things.

No one ever came up to me and said, “Rachel, I just thought of a great structure!”

All writers are dreamers of story.

But James contends too many writers get wrapped around the axel on structure and forget about story.

As you know, here at MBT, we are all about BOTH.

As the conversation rose to a debate and we pleasantly bantered around ideas, I realized it boiled down to an approach in terms more than true disagreement.

Steven asserted people make an outline then try to write to the outline and end up with a bland story.

Agree! “Steven,” I said. “Outline is NOT structure.”

Ted’s daughter, Rochelle, chimed in with me. “Right, it’s just an outline.”

So just what are we talking about here?

James asserted a writer should write themselves into a corner. (My worst nightmare!) Then write themselves out of it.

Ted fell somewhere in between free flow and pre planning a story.

Susie asserted we don’t proclaim a story must be all planned with no new discoveries, but a writer should know where the story is going. And I piped up, “You have to know what the story is about!”

I think, if we’d had more time, we’d have found a lot more common ground. Though I’ll never confirm writing oneself into a corner is a good idea. I mean, it’s how a lot of new writers end up failing.

But what is the balance between story and structure?

Well, story does trump all! What the book is about? What kind of story are you telling? What is the heart and essence you want to communicate.

Books are about ordinary people doing extraordinary things. Overcoming fear, besetting issues, defeating evil and mending broken hearts.

But what is the best method or approach to putting this all on paper?

James said, “Look, I was five days from deadline and discovered I had he wrong killer. So I called my editor and told her I could fix it, rewrite the book an make it much better but I needed two more months. She said, “Do it.”

He contends pre planning wouldn’t have helped in that moment.

Isn’t that the beauty of writing? Discoverability. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve discovered some new truth at the end of the book.

Sometimes I go with it. Other times I do not. Not all last minute discoveries work. They don’t necessarily make the book better.

Susie “tells herself the story” by writing a long synopsis. Based on her gifts and talents, she pretty much sticks to that synopsis. Because by writing the story out “and this happened, then this” she discovers problems as well as nuances.

I know I’ll never write a book again without writing out the whole story. Foregoing that exercise for How To Catch A Prince messed me up.

I don’t do well writing by the “seat of my pants.” I write 400K words to get 90K. Ha! Not an efficient use of my time.

The conversation that night was all over the place, as you can imagine, but in the end, it was great time of fellowship and discussion. I think the group around the table that night more or less agreed with each other… if we came to common grounds on terminology.

We’d all say:

Develop a great story.
Come up with tension and what-if scenarios.
Consider what can go wrong. Do that only worse.

Structure is important so you, the writer, has an idea of where you’re going. Structure doesn’t have to be complicated. James is opposed to the 3 Act Structure. I get that… suddenly novelist have to behave like screenwriters.

But novel structure is simple:

Home world, every day life with a hint of the story question.
Inciting incident that launches the story.
The journey. The Noble Quest. This comes from the story question, what the character wants.
Disappointments and trials. Things don’t go well.
Choice. What are they going to do now?
Epiphany. “Oh, I get it now.”
Black Moment
Happy Ending

Is that too much structure? Naw… come on. If you want to make your writing job easier, at least plug in some of these factors.

Know where your story is going and what it’s about.

Story does trump structure. But a story without structure is like a building without a foundation. It’ll topple.

Happy Writing

Comments 5

  1. I have to chime in on this because I have thoughts…so many thoughts…this would’ve been a ridiculously fun conversation to be a part of! 🙂

    My thing with story vs. structure: MBT taught me to think about the basics of story structure before going into a story. I need that…so much. Writing aimlessly doesn’t get me anywhere. That said, the last story I plotted out into a neat and tidy structure (actually every story I’ve plotted out) has ended up looking completely different by the end. Things that I thought were supposed to happen in the third act, wound up in the second and vice versa…the story took me places my plot and structure hadn’t planned for.

    BUT…I wouldn’t have gotten to those places without the structure’s initial guidance. I needed something to write toward and guide the way. For me, structure is like a flexible Amazon guide who says, “Okay, we’re gonna hike through this jungle and I have a plan for the path we’re going to take and I know where we should end up. However, at some point it’ll probably storm…we might happen upon wild animals…the river could flood…we could encounter a muddy avalanche…so don’t get too attached to the map I’m handing out.” The guide might take me off-course, but I won’t be as aimless as if I’d attempted the trek without him.

    Also, I loved this: Story does trump structure. But a story without structure is like a building without a foundation. It’ll topple.

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      Melissa,

      Next time you need to be in on the conversation!

      I agree with you, the planning I’ve done that ended up not the “cutting room floor” was necessary to know my characters. I think I’ll always write 200k words or 150k words to get 95k but that’s my process. But I’d never ignore the simple basic structure of a story to help me decide where I was going. Knowing the end so of a scene or a chapter alas the book is so key to know what to do “in the middle.”

      You’re getting this!! And you’ll add your great wisdom to the writers coming after you!

  2. Rachel, you rescued me. Seriously. Yesterday I was crawled up on the couch wondering how to balance these two things. I felt I had lost my story by trying too hard to stick to the structure. I didn’t know where to go or whether to even keep going. I love the thought of keeping the basics but not sinking all your energy into them. Today I need to go back and find my story, then write it – trusting all the great things Susie and MBT has taught me. This post was divine timing for me. Thanks so much.
    Jan

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  3. I think I will pin this to my forehead and let it seep into my brain while I sleep at night! I read your books, along with many other great authors, and think “ok I can do this.” Until I sit here at my desk and start thinking of the story question and try to develop a great story. I then proceed to run my fingers through my hair, SIGH way too many times, and cannot bring myself to write thousands of meaningless words…words that will mean nothing if there is not a good story question to start the tension. Thanks, as always, for your wisdom. Blessings.

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